Lots of things were obviously better in the past, but some really haven’t stood the test of time. For example, watch any old episode of a talk show, and you’ll be stunned by just how boring it is — with some notable exceptions, of course.

One area where this is definitely the case is sports. Most players back in the day didn’t have time on their side; after all, it only makes sense that, given years and years of experience and training, the players of today can build on the skills developed in the past, making them better than those who came before them.

There are some sports where this is more pronounced than others — for example, the earliest recorded high jump record is 5 feet, 2 inches, whereas the modern record is 8 feet, 1⁄4 inches. But could that be the same case in basketball? These young fans certainly seem to think so.

@esquiresports Why is nobody within five feet of “the greatest player of all time” ? @esqmichael #michaeljordan #magicjohnson #lakers #chicagobulls #lebron #greenscreen ♬ original sound - esquiresports

As evidence, TikToker @esquiresports watches “old NBA Finals games between Michael Jordan and Magic Johnson.” His takeaway? The players are good, but not great.

Over the course of the video, @esquiresports notes several bad moves, laughable defense (“these dudes are just tackling each other”) and a whole lot more. Granted, he gives the players credit where credit is due, but in general, watching this game from ‘91 seemed to have been a pretty shit experience for him.

Others on the platform agree.

@hatingsince94 Day 9 of exposing the truth. #viralditiktok #foryoupage #explorepage #for #hilariousvideos #funnyvideo #lebron #shorts #jordan #nbaedits #nbahighlights ♬ original sound - Professional Hater

Commenters appeared to be enlightened by this discovery. “I always thought the games were 85-82 because of amazing defense… its cause they all were TRASH,” wrote a user. “And people say the 96 bulls would beat the 17 warriors,” offered another. “lmao it would be a 4-0 massacre.”

Sure, these guys could just be cherry-picking, but they make some good points — and given just how good players are today and how much better they’re getting over time, it’s almost certain that in 30 years we’ll be seeing videos about how LeBron wasn’t all he was cracked up to be.

God bless nostalgia!